Just heard a station say "I notice there are no channels on HF
like there is on VHF". Then the station he is talking with says,
"that's right, just move up a few from where he is a call call CQ"
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
I listen to 14.275 a lot. Out of several hours I probably hear this
phrase maybe once or at best twice "IS THE FREQUENCY IN USE" Oh well.
While I'm venting...can someone explain to me what "contact" means.
I keep looking for a propeller trying to run me over.
Dan/W4NTI
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Hi Dan,
Contact is what happens when you clash with the enemy, or what happens when you turn over the engine on your biplane.
Speaking of the enemy, how long before the sappers put a bead on that moron in Canada?
I'm not saying I endorse the mission, but why hasn't somebody parked at the Jehova's Witness temple and put a bipod in the bushes... with all that entails?
Hank,
Oh yeah...like in TIC....Troops in Contact...I remember that. Hearing that used to wake us up big time....biplane or not.... ho ho.
I think most folks have written that Canadian flake off. But he is fun to slap around at times.
Dan/W4NTI
You're right Dan, sure seems like good old Karol the Kook is all washed up. Ever since Bill called the Canuck Coast Guard about his fake distress signals old KKKarol's been purty quiet!
Don't hear his fruitcake lovers choir calling him to the bath house either. No more toeblow, junior, gold turd, whitless, or any of those psychos.
And old Fred Lloyd finally put the smackdown on new 275 threads by his impostors. Must suck to be such a big time loser!
Oh, I did notice Karol updated his blog though!
:)
The phrase "contact" is the result of some goof deciding that saying "break" between transmissions constituted an emergency of some sort.
I heard W7CPA say that very thing yesterday. Someone used "break" in between his QSO and W7CPA came back with; "And what's the nature of your emergency?"
Looking at my ARRL Operating Manual, there are just three recognized distress signals: QRRR, SOS and Mayday. Nothing about the word "break".
You obviously haven't handled any priority traffic in an emergency situation there 'anonymous ToeJoe' aka ignorant homo.
"Break" or "Break, Break" are prowords used to signify emergency traffic, and if you're using an ARRL handbook as a source of info, I really feel sorry for you.
"Break" or "Break, Break" are prowords used to signify emergency traffic, and if you're using an ARRL handbook as a source of info, I really feel sorry for you.
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At least I've cited my source, which is from the only legit organization that represents amateur radio.
Would you cite your source please???
From: AC6V.com
break - (Repeater Term) used to interrupt a conversation on a repeater to indicate that there is an emergency or urgent message. If non-urgent, simply interject your callsign.
break break (Repeater Term) used to intercede in an existing conversation with emergency communications.
Please note: Both break & break-break are defined here as REPEATER designated terms.
I see what was happened. The two meter/vhf clowns have come down to HF and have interjected their two meter protocol onto HF.
Using "break" on HF does NOT designate an emergency. So the next time W7CPA asks; "What is the nature of your emergency?"....I will reply; "Are you on VHF Randy????"
Problem clarified....
sadly arrl in backseat to itu-t stnadards body now. good pratcice now is to use gmdss radio instead of voice or cw and ham radio mostly oboslete by gmdss stnadards which mention hr notat all
the license to get is gmdss radio ops license and not ham licnesnce.
sadly arrl in backseat to itu-t stnadards body now. good pratcice now is to use gmdss radio instead of voice or cw and ham radio mostly oboslete by gmdss stnadards which mention hr notat all
the license to get is gmdss radio ops license and not ham licnesnce.
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Can somebody please translate???
My spell-checker counts eleven errors in the above message.
I tell you what, from now on instead of using "break" or "break, break", I will simply use a "deedle"!!!!
To all, except Marky, he is to STUPID to understand,
The comments of bringing VHF proceedures to HF seem correct.
There has always been problems on HF as to how to properly break a QSO.
Years ago, before FM repeaters caught on, or for that matter were even on I was told just interject your call. Since FM was few and far between it really didn't matter much.
As FM machines took over VHF the argument began. And to be honest I really don't give a rip what the VHF FM CBers do. I don't think most of what they do needs to be interjected to HF. Which is the point of my post.
Contact, Break, etc should go away. Replace it with "This is CALLSIGN" and wait to be acknowledged.
If you have a bonafied emergency just say so.
Any problems? Course there will be. hi hi.
Dan/W4NTI
Any problems? Course there will be. hi hi.
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Problem is, Dano...there are those that key down so quickly, the only word you can slip in between exchanges is "break". Even "contact" has two silly-bulls. (That last word was for Markie-poo....)
Ok anonymous asshole, you want sources? Here you go. I could give you dozens but these will prove the point. All of these organizations use BREAK on HF to signify an emergency.
This is such a common practice, and such a source of confusion, that the word BREAK is universally avoided on amateur radio by anyone with a brain. In military radio, BREAK is used to separate bodies of information, but, otherwise, it's used to signify urgent traffic and/or emergencies, and has been for years.
If you can't understand that, it's probably because you've been sniffing dieselfumes for fun and profit you moron.
ARES
"If you have URGENT traffic, use the proword BREAK and your callsign at
any time when no one is transmitting."
http://www.wwa-district3-ares.org/mason_county/doc/manual.txt
White Water Safety Guide
"Break - I have URGENT traffic. (use with care)"
http://www.v27.org/files/Prowords%20and%20Alpha.pdf
Universal Search and Rescue
"Break, Break-Break - Used to interrupt a communication in progress,
Break-break - Also indicates an emergency."
http://jcares.hypermart.net/jsaradio.htm
United Nations
"Proword Break. All station will immediately cease transmission on hearing that ProWord. The station BREAKing has urgent life-saving message. Only to be used in EXTREME emergency."
http://www.reliefweb.int/telecoms/training/unhcrradio.html
Etc, Etc, Etc...
Anonymous said...
One of the reasons there is more QRM is because you are being a busybody self appointed nazi over lord, stop being a pain in the ass and mind your own business
This right here is a classic example as to why Amateur Radio has gone down the tubes.
With a LOT of the new hams one can not even OFFER advice without getting your self insulted.
Screw you puke.
Dan/W4NTI
Ed Hare,
If this is the real Ed, howdy and welcome. If not then you have a hell of a name live up to.
Dan/W4NTI
Hi Dan,
It's me. Don't worry about the anonymous naysayers. They're everywhere in ham radio these days, and I have every reason to believe you're dealing with a handful of supporters of that crazy Canadian reprobate on Vancouver Island. Pay no attention and continue making a difference in amateur radio.
73,
Ed
OK anonymous asshole, you want sources? Here you go. I could give you dozens but these will prove the point. All of these organizations use BREAK on HF to signify an emergency. This is such a common practice, and such a source of confusion, that the word BREAK is universally avoided on amateur radio by anyone with a brain. In military radio, BREAK is used to separate bodies of information,
***OH! Thank your for giving us yet ANOTHER use! (to separate bodies of information) I had forgotten about this....***
but, otherwise, it's used to signify urgent traffic and/or emergencies, and has been for years. If you can't understand that, it's probably because you've been sniffing dieselfumes for fun and profit you moron.
ARES
"If you have URGENT traffic, use the proword BREAK and your callsign at any time when no one is transmitting."
http://www.wwa-district3-ares.org/mason_county/doc/manual.txt
***Hey! You CONVENIENTLY forgot this paragraph from this website!
>>BREAK - Has two uses. During net operations, the word break, followed by a call sign, indicates to the net control that a station has important information which should take precedence over what is being done on the net at the time.<<
Wow! Isn't that what my definition of BREAK is all about? One has IMPORTANT information. It doesn't say anything here about emergency or life threatening traffic.***
White Water Safety Guide "Break - I have URGENT traffic. (use with care)"
http://www.v27.org/files/Prowords%20and%20Alpha.pdf
***You liar!! Here is the EXACT definition as cut and pasted from the PDF:
BREAK I have higher priority traffic. (Used with care)
It does NOT say EMERGENCY!!!!!***
Universal Search and Rescue "Break, Break-Break - Used to interrupt a communication in progress, Break-break - Also indicates an emergency."
http://jcares.hypermart.net/jsaradio.htm
***This webpage discusses its usees in SARS (Public Service Band) and amateur VHF!!!...***
United Nations "Proword Break. All station will immediately cease transmission on hearing that ProWord. The station BREAKing has urgent life-saving message. Only to be used in EXTREME emergency."
http://www.reliefweb.int/telecoms/training/unhcrradio.html
***UNITED NATIONS COMMUNICATIONS are NOT amateur radio!! Look at their "radio check" procedure. Not even CLOSE to amateur radio's RS-T!!***
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